I had an interesting email exchange with a reporter from the Winston-Salem Journal about the hospitals that Novant and WFU Baptist Medical Center are proposing to build in Clemmons (Novant’s) or Advance (WFUBMC). When I wrote that I’d really like to see Baptist build a new hospital on the site in Mocksville where it currently has an old hospital that by all accounts is old and in need of mothballs, she replied that Baptist can’t afford to build there because it is hemorrhaging money and market share. I’m sure she’s right about that and I understand the business implications in both companies’ building proposals, but I think one issue that needs to be discussed is the fact that both companies are non-profits. As non-profits shouldn’t the companies’ goals and agendas involve more than market share and profit?
In thinking about this I came to the realization that although I’ve worked in the non-profit industry for a long time I really don’t know what non-profits are supposed to be. I decided to do a little research and when I Googled "history of nonprofits in america" the first listing was a 1998 USIS article titled Nonprofit Organizations: America’s Invisible Sector written by Dr. Lester M. Salamon, director of the Center for Civil
Society Studies at the Johns Hopkins University. He provides a basic definition of non-profits:
As a first step in this process, it is necessary to clarify
exactly what the nonprofit sector is. In the United States, 26
different types of organizations are identified as worthy of tax
exemption, ranging from business associations through charitable
organizations and social clubs. Behind these 26 categories,
however, lie five critical features that all these entities
share. To be considered part of the nonprofit sector, therefore,
an entity must be:
organizational, i.e., an
institution with some
meaningful structure and permanence;
nongovernmental, i.e. not part
of the apparatus of
government;
non-profit-distributing, i.e.,
not permitted to
distribute profits to its owners or directors, but rather
required to plow them back into the objectives of the
organization;
self-governing, i.e., not
controlled by some entity
outside the organization; and
supportive of some public
purpose.While all organizations that meet these five criteria are
formally part of the nonprofit sector in the United States, an
important distinction exists between two broad categories of
these organizations. The first are primarily
member-serving organizations. While serving some public
purpose, these organizations meet the interests, needs and
desires of the members of the organization. Included here are
social clubs, business associations, labor unions, mutual benefit
organizations of various sorts and political parties.The second group of nonprofit organizations are primarily
public-serving organizations. These organizations exist
exclusively to serve the needs of a broader public. Included here
are a variety of funding intermediaries such as charitable,
grant-making foundations; religious congregations; and a wide
range of educational, scientific, charitable and related service
organizations providing everything from nursing home care to
environmental advocacy.This distinction between member-serving and public-serving
organizations is far from perfect. Nevertheless, it is
sufficiently important to find formal reflection in American law.
Thus, public-serving organizations fall into a special legal
category — Section 501(c)(3) of the U.S. tax code — that makes
them eligible not only for exemption from federal income taxation
and most state and local taxation, but also for tax-deductible
gifts from individuals and corporations, that is, gifts that
the individuals and corporations can deduct from their own income
in computing their tax liabilities. It is these organizations
that most Americans have in mind when they think about the
"nonprofit sector" and it is these that we will focus on here.
If we accept this definition, and I think it’s pretty good, then we accept that both Baptist and Novant are public serving organizations. And since a requirement of non-profits is to plow their profits back into meeting their objectives then a natural question would be "Are Novant and WFU plowing their profits back into their mission?"
Originally I was going to detail a bunch of numbers from both organizations’ 990 filings. These are the forms that non-profits file with the IRS (kind of like an individual’s 1090) and they highlight the non-profit’s financial performance for the year. But instead of getting into the details I’m going to provide you with links to the filings (see the bottom of this post) and simply say that without question both organizations are highly profitable and both could probably stand to spend more money on the community no matter what they say about how much they write off in serving the indigent and poor. Believe me, they show a healthy profit even after accounting for those expenses.
So given that Novant and WFUBMC are already profitable should they look only at market share and profitability when building these facilities? Baptist wants to build in Advance because they say they will be serving Davie county and the majority of Davie lives in that area. Maybe, but it’s also true that the majority of high income Davie residents live in Advance and it’s no secret that they’d like to poach some of the high income Clemmons residents from Novant as well. Novant claims that they already serve something like 60% of the residents in the area proposed to be served by either hospital so it makes more sense to give them their shot in Clemmons, but if Baptist gets to build their hospital those numbers could change.
The reality is that Novant and WFUBMC are businesses that happen to be designated non-profits, or in other words they are non-profits in name only. If they were non-profits in the sense that I think an average person with common sense would think of a non-profit then they wouldn’t dicker about the Downtown Health Plaza and they would spend more money on operations that serve poorer and more rural communities. They would also acknowledge that they already make plenty of money off of their existing operations in Winston-Salem and actually look at how they can serve communities in need and not just at market share.
I’d like to see the state offer Baptist and Novant the following deal: you can build your hospitals if you agree to set them up as for-profit subsidiaries that will allow the counties to collect property tax OR you can build your hospitals if you expand/improve your facilities and services in at least two rural operations. With the first proposal the state would be saying to the organizations that we’re going to call a spade a spade, and with the second they’d be pushing the organizations closer to fulfilling their intended roles as non-profits. Of course I’ll be ice skating in hell before either happens.
Links:
North Carolina Baptist Hospital 2004 990
WFU Health Sciences 2004 990
WFU BMC 2004 990
Novant’s 2004 990
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organizational, i.e., an
The better 990 to compare w/Novant is NC Baptist Hospital. It appeared that Novant had expenses 10% less than income and NCBH about 3% less than income. What level would you deem “plowing their profits back into their mission?” No margin? I don’t know of many other non-profits that are as capital intensive as hospitals, and each has bond obligations measured in the hundreds of millions of dollars. They need to have some ‘profit’ to continue paying their obligations and to continue expansion. Didn’t Novant pump money into the new Sara Lee Women’s center, and NCBH is planning on a major expansion over the next few years.
I don’t think either of your plans are good ideas. Would NC then revisit every hospital in the state? NCBH is not just competing with Forsyth, but with the other teaching hospitals in NC. I don’t think the state dictating to hospitals where to build is useful, as then they would mandate a given size, etc.
The issue is really whose hospital plan for Clemmons/Davie is better, and I don’t know by what criteria that would be judged.
Thanks for the comment Jim. I think you’re right that the hospital’s is the better 990 to compare Novant to, and I’ll add a link to it.
Per your point about the margins, I agree that they have to put aside some money for future obligations and your point about their bond obligations is a good one. That said they are also sitting on hundreds of millions in net assets, they receive public support in the millions of dollars and they don’t pay property taxes commensurate to their operations. Yes they are both expanding, but they are expanding in areas where they stand to make even more money. I’m not sure what the correct percentage of retained revenue is, but my point is that I don’t think either of these 990s show operations that pass the stink test for a non-profit.
Novant paid its CEO over $1.2 million in 2004, not including benefits. How is that not enriching a director? Sure he’s running a big operation, and if he was the CEO of a public company I’d say more power to him. But he’s running a non-profit that made just over $90,000 in donations that same year. So one man made 13 times more than they donated to local groups?
As for the state telling them where and how to build that is already happening as shown with the process that we’re seeing for Davie/Clemmons. Healthcare is a highly regulated industry and as such the state has a lot of say in where hospitals are built and how big they are. Does that mean it’s the right way to run a healthcare system? Probably it’s a necessity since a totally free market system would probably leave very large gaps in coverage in rural areas. That’s why I think it’s a fine idea to give Novant and Baptist expanded opportunities in higher density and higher wealth areas in return for fulfilling their non-profit charter by serving communities where they will probably make less money or even lose money. If they do that then they are truly behaving like non-profits.
Of course this is just my opinion, but I think if you laid the numbers out in a room full of citizens you’d find more people than not would find these are operations run like self-interested companies and not non-profits with public service focus.
I guess the 1.2mil overshadows Len Preslar’s 600k+ salary. Is there a limit for non-profit salaries? I think that they can compare themselves to for-profit similar corporations. This seems to be a fairly hot topic:
I think the idea of non-for-profit hospitals is good, but more frequent audits and clear guidelines would improve the mission.
Hi Jim,
I don’t think there’s a legal limit to how much a non-profit executive can make, but there is a standard for how much money a non-profit should spend on its core mission. It’s not a legal standard (that I know of) but a benchmark that is used to measure how a non-profit is performing. For instance you’ll read stories about non-profits that use professional for-profit telemarketing operations where something like 70 cents of every dollar is pocketed by the telemarketing firm. Obviously that’s bad.
Thanks for the link. That’s a good article that I think highlights the issue very well re. the vaguely defined “community benefit”. I agree that the idea of a non-profit hospital is good, and I whole heartedly support the idea. You’re right on the money that clear guidelines would really help and I very much think that those guidelines should strongly advocate for affordable healthcare for all members of the community. I may sound like a bleeding heart that is looking for some sort of “socialized medicine” but I think what I’m advocating is as beneficial for the middle and upper class communities. As someone who pays all of his family’s healthcare out of pocket (100% of premiums, co-pays, office visits, pharma) I find it absolutely disheartening when my expenses rise 30% in a given year and find out that the providers on both ends of the system (insurance and hospital) are retaining huge earnings and paying massive salaries while enjoying the tax-advantaged non-profit status.
Hope you have a great new year!
Hi Jon,
I am new to this Novant vs. WFUBMC uproar but I have been doing some research. My question is, why do you feel Novant is the lesser of two “evils”? (I use that term lightly). I am trying to understand each side before I chose and I was quite impressed with your ideas and theory’s on Non profit). I then read in the next article, that, your cousin works for Novant and you are on Novants team. I am just wondering why you chose to backup Novant, who seems to want to create a monopoly and take small business out of healthcare. Is WFUBMC trying to do that as well? Again, I only know bits and pieces and I am trying to put a clear picture together.
Thanks so much!
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